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Title: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "diz fix" really
Post by: ilegal on July 06, 2013, 07:52:03 PM
Anyone got any tips on what I might be doing wrong here?

I made a new coil (Kanthal 0.2, and 400 ss mesh) for my AGA T2 and it ended up being 5 coils around the wick. It works on both the s19b and the vamo but on the vamo I'm getting a much better bite off it - better hit with much more vapour. It's like on the segelei it hasn't got the power to put through it or something. The resistance as measured on the Vamo is 2.5

Am I right in thinking that the resistance is too high for the segelei? And to lower it would I have been better doing say 3 coils instead do you think so it would work better on the segelei?

Thanks for any suggestions
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: justin case on July 06, 2013, 07:53:41 PM
Anyone got any tips on what I might be doing wrong here?

I made a new coil (Kanthal 0.2, and 400 ss mesh) for my AGA T2 and it ended up being 5 coils around the wick. It works on both the s19b and the vamo but on the vamo I'm getting a much better bite off it - better hit with much more vapour. It's like on the segelei it hasn't got the power to put through it or something. The resistance as measured on the Vamo is 2.5

Am I right in thinking that the resistance is too high for the segelei? And to lower it would I have been better doing say 3 coils instead do you think so it would work better on the segelei?

Thanks for any suggestions

lol you just answered your own question.....plus the vamo is vv.
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: igetcha on July 06, 2013, 07:59:34 PM
The Vamo will output at whatever wattage you have it set to so the resistance won't really matter, but the 19b will be outputting at whatever charge level is left in the battery.......as your 19b battery depletes the performance will reduce too

Mechanical mods will perform better with a lower resistance coil......electrical mods will be the opposite :)
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 06, 2013, 08:01:46 PM
Cheers guys, that makes sense now! I'll try a lower resistance then next time for the mechanical mod

Much appreciated  ;D
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: Jimmy on July 09, 2013, 09:21:41 PM
I have the Sigelei 19A  which has the same magnet in the switch as the B and I think that the magnet effects the conductivity through the mod because when I use my other mechanical mods I get a much better hit with the same atty and the same battery if I swap them over. I'm going to remove the magnet an tap a hole in the bottom post so I can screw a brass bolt instead which hopefully will correct this
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 09:34:25 PM
thanks jimmy, I was thinking of replacing the whole firing pin as the drilling etc sounds hard work. The word is that Gary at Celtic Vapes is going to be putting 100 solid brass firing pins up for sale - in place of the magnet, there's a little brass nipple - basically the body of the button just extended a bit. Hang on, I'll try find a pic..
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 09:36:04 PM
Here you go, have a look at the pin and you'll see what I mean:

http://www.tinyuploads.com/images/pTP880.jpg (http://www.tinyuploads.com/images/pTP880.jpg)
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 09:38:06 PM
But yeah, if you've got a brass screw and a tap and die it would do the same job! It'll prob be cheaper for me buying the piece than a tap and die tho :)
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: RebelPants on July 09, 2013, 09:49:40 PM
Have you tried just using a lower res coil? Assuming you are still concerned about the lack of kick.
Think the point of the Mech Mods is that when you get used to making your own coils
you can virtually predict the output you will get from the atty you build.
Although, there are others far more experienced than me regarding such matters.
Goodluck,
Reb  8)
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 09:55:24 PM
Have you tried just using a lower res coil? Assuming you are still concerned about the lack of kick.
Think the point of the Mech Mods is that when you get used to making your own coils
you can virtually predict the output you will get from the atty you build.
Although, there are others far more experienced than me regarding such matters.
Goodluck,
Reb  8)

Yep, that was my prob with the latest coil Reb - too high res. Using it on the Vamo at min and will try a lower res one for next time for the S19 (only one RBA at the mo lol). I think Jimmy's saying he only gets the duff hit on the Segelei but not on other mech mods, which might mean it's connectivity or whatever
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: diz on July 09, 2013, 10:09:57 PM
I have my own theory about the 19b switch:

I don't think the magnet is the source of the problem with misfires on this switch. I think the switch will contact fine with a battery and be able to pass sufficient current through the ferrous material. I think the issue is with how the button in the switch connects to the body of the mod. The spring that connects to the button is insulated by the plastic washer. The button is also insulated from the body by this plastic washer. So the only way the button can connect electrically and pass current to the body of the mod is via the outer edge of the button.

This edge of the button would touch the inner edge of the locking ring to pass current within the switch. There is a gap between the button and locking ring (necessary for the button to operate freely and the locking ring to function without unscrewing the button). The pressure applied when pressing the switch is not always a lateral force, so can make for a poor contact between the switch and body of the 19b.
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: RebelPants on July 09, 2013, 10:11:03 PM
Although I have the 19b, have not used it too much as awaiting imr batts.
Using a vivi nova I am well familiar rebuilding with, I got a good consistent vape.
Over heard some lads in the know in the chat room last night discussing bottom spring in relation
to heat produced if it bends hitting side of tube.
But none mentioned lack of kick or output as a potential prob.
Once you get used to rebuilding you should be fine mate.
Goodluck,
Reb  8)
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: Jimmy on July 09, 2013, 10:18:03 PM

thanks jimmy, I was thinking of replacing the whole firing pin as the drilling etc sounds hard work. The word is that Gary at Celtic Vapes is going to be putting 100 solid brass firing pins up for sale - in place of the magnet, there's a little brass nipple - basically the body of the button just extended a bit. Hang on, I'll try find a pic..

That's interesting I'd defo buy that instead I've seen that he's got brass sigelei 19's on pre order I've also read a thread on ukvapers about changing the spring to a bb mod spring from I vapour elixir will help as well because the spring makes contact with the body is the mod. I'm just waiting till I order some thing else from there as well tho because I think the postage is a bit steep. About £4 if I remember correctly
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 10:19:48 PM
I have my own theory about the 19b switch:

I don't think the magnet is the source of the problem with misfires on this switch. I think the switch will contact fine with a battery and be able to pass sufficient current through the ferrous material. I think the issue is with how the button in the switch connects to the body of the mod. The spring that connects to the button is insulated by the plastic washer. The button is also insulated from the body by this plastic washer. So the only way the button can connect electrically and pass current to the body of the mod is via the outer edge of the button.

This edge of the button would touch the inner edge of the locking ring to pass current within the switch. There is a gap between the button and locking ring (necessary for the button to operate freely and the locking ring to function without unscrewing the button). The pressure applied when pressing the switch is not always a lateral force, so can make for a poor contact between the switch and body of the 19b.

I always like your insight diz. That seems to make sense to me and I'll try comparisons later this week when my brass segelei arrives. One thing I'd say is that I was getting cheesed off with my 19b mis-firing, button falling out or unscrewing with the mechanism, lock cap not screwing all the way up etc so I took it apart (again!) and then cleaned all the threads out properly. There was loads of black whatever it was, like grease or something. Now I've done that it locks and unlocks perfectly, fires much better etc

And here's a think I've NEVER noticed before until looking after your post, if you turn your lights pretty much off and fire the switch centrally in the dark I can see little sparks or flashes jumping between the button and the body! Holy smoke! When you're pushing it laterally, and it's connected to the body it's perfectly fine. Diz, I think you've sussed this mate, honestly
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: RebelPants on July 09, 2013, 10:27:57 PM
I just did the same test....
Dark room, unprotected batt(all I have), fired every time using 18650 fired with little finger
without any problems. I saw no sparks. I noticed no heating probs either.
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 10:30:32 PM
@JImmy, do you mean this one? http://www.ivapour-elixir.co.uk/bb-hot-spring.html (http://www.ivapour-elixir.co.uk/bb-hot-spring.html)

Reb, don't know then, mine's deffo sparking - tiny little flashes (and I'm not losing it either before you ask). Got to be pretty much total dark and wiggle the button around while you're firing and looking at it from the bottom of the mod..
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: RebelPants on July 09, 2013, 10:31:25 PM
The battery used was a flat top with no nipple(yes I said it  :P).
Dunno if this might be of significance.
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 10:34:09 PM
Don't know, but I was thinking about Diz's post and why mine started firing better and I bet it was the grease and tiny swarf or whatever that was creating a bit of a contact barrier. I think this is why people maybe have had some success doing the threads with noalax - I think Capt said he'd done that on his and it had improved the firing
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: RebelPants on July 09, 2013, 10:39:17 PM
Yeah I certainly have not added any Grease or adjusted mine in any way.
I remember Ric mentioning in chat one night that his own device no longer has thread issues.
After some use they apparently sort themselves out.
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 10:42:28 PM
Only guessing but could be that the threads eventually sort themselves out - a wipe and clean seems to quicken that process, at least it did for mine
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: Jimmy on July 09, 2013, 10:52:29 PM
Yeah that's the one from what I can gather some ppl were cutting down a silver button hot spring but that one supposedly fits perfectly
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 10:53:46 PM
Yeah that's the one from what I can gather some ppl were cutting down a silver button hot spring but that one supposedly fits perfectly

Cheers Jimmy, I'll grab one of them then but yeah, the postage kind of kills it  :-\
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: diz on July 09, 2013, 10:56:11 PM
Thanks for those kind words! I've just looked for sparks and seen them too around the edge of the switch. I had visually examined the switch for a conductive path, then had been checking the switch with my multimeter. But the arcing rather seals it. Good idea to have a look for sparks!

I had always been suspicious about claims of the conductive superiority of brass over other metals in these low voltage applications. Electrically speaking, it does not make much of a difference at all - and the conductivity maths backs this up.

There might be a way of connecting the spring to the body of the mod electrically; by slipping a metal washer under the plastic insulator, so the spring would then "ground" the button to the body of the mod through the washer. The issue here is that the washer would need the correct internal and external diameters and thickness.

I have some adhesive copper sheet that I've just tried out to see if this solves the issue and ensures some connection between the button and the body. I think it works! pic below:


Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 11:00:16 PM
Nice on Diz. First thing I'd say is that spring looks better than the one in mine for some reason - could be the lighting

Second, is that on the base of the delrin then, where the base of the switch comes up to it when firing?
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: diz on July 09, 2013, 11:08:37 PM
What lighting?  ;D Sorry about that!

That's right - the copper/washer is on the side of the plastic insulator that faces the button end and supports the spring. When you unscrew the plastic insulator, you could slip a washer in then screw the plastic insulator back down again to secure it against the body of the mod, therefore making electrical connection between the mod, spring and button that is missing the current design.
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 11:15:21 PM
I'm liking this Diz. The 19 issues are making much more sense now after seeing the arcing sparks and your post on the lateral connection. I can see how Jimmy's right with the spring now too - if it's hitting the outside of the chamber it would produce the same effect presumably? Although would a spring be less than perfectly reliable because of surface area/movement than a washer?

Either way, I'm going to phase out tonight and come back in the morning. thanks again bud, I reckon we've cracked it tonight (well, you and Jimmy anyway lol)

Catch up tomorrow  :D
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: diz on July 09, 2013, 11:25:07 PM
Your sparking observation that I could reproduce was pretty vital in confirming this too.

If a revised spring hits the outside of the mod's body then it would have the same effect of "powering" up the button, but I'm worried that the spring contact might be intermittent because of movement, else cause grating and scraping as the switch is pressed that may make the button feel less smooth in it's action.

I can say that the spring I use came with the device. I've turned a light on and hope my new pic shows more detail of my "fix", although a suitable washer may ultimately be the best solution.

Cheers mate.
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: ilegal on July 09, 2013, 11:31:43 PM
Cheers Diz, I was just playing down my pivotal role in this ;)

I'm going to take my 19 apart tomorrow and have a proper look. Then we just need to find some washers!

All in all, it's certainly making me think that the whole drilled out magnet in the firing pin thing was a red herring from day 1 - we've all followed what was probably one or two people's own method thinking it was the only method

RIght, deffo away now before Rocc catches up with me again ;)

Nite all  ;D
Title: Re: Trying to understand RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo
Post by: diz on July 09, 2013, 11:41:01 PM
I can honestly say that your "ilegal fix" works a treat for me and I've not had a single misfire since I used it. It really is looking good, although it is early days...

Let me know if you want me to send you a piece of adhesive copper sheet for your own tests!
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 10, 2013, 08:02:40 AM
Quote
I can honestly say that your "ilegal fix" works a treat for me

Hahaha  :D Note new thread title ;)

I'm not sure what to do Diz. If you've got a little piece of that copper spare and don't mind posting it that would be great! Is it easy to apply and shape it like you've done? I'll PM you my addy anyway in case

From what you say this means there's no need to replace the spring? I wouldn't mind a punt on the BB spring but the minimum postage is £3 and I can't find anything else on ivapour-elixir I can be bothered with - even the AGA T2 is what I think is the old AGA T2 (AGA T+?)
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Jimmy on July 10, 2013, 04:09:22 PM
Just a quick update I've drilled and tapped a hole in mine now and it's working a lot better now even without a brass screw because I didn't have any to hand.
Also instead of ordering another spring I took some pliers to the stock spring and widened the bottom coil so it was touching the side of the body.
Been using it for a few hours now and it's been brilliant no misfires and seems to be firing 10 times better than what it was.
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 10, 2013, 04:13:34 PM
Nice one Jimmy, so that's just a normal screw in there? I wonder if just widening the spring would have made the difference on its own? I think this 'touching the body' is the critical thing, like we were chatting about last night with Diz

Anyway, it's great mate, well done and glad it's working!  :)
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Jimmy on July 10, 2013, 04:25:50 PM

Nice one Jimmy, so that's just a normal screw in there? I wonder if just widening the spring would have made the difference on its own? I think this 'touching the body' is the critical thing, like we were chatting about last night with Diz

Anyway, it's great mate, well done and glad it's working!  :)

Yeah just a normal m4 screw for now I'll pick up some pan head brass m4's as soon as possible and I think it will fire even better.
When I widened the spring that seemed to make it better as well and I've not had 1 misfire since.
I've also put a couple of o-rings that I took off a couple of old CE5 clearomiser drip tips and put them on the bottom of the brass post and this has shortened the throw of the switch to about 2mm
Happy days
I would defo give it a go widening the spring it's a 2 min job
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 10, 2013, 05:13:18 PM
Cheers Jimmy, I might dig my pliers out and have a fiddle. Me and Diz also have a little experiment going with the copper Diz mentioned. I'm going to give it a go on mine too so we can see if it's a consistent improvement  ;)

I'm more annoyed at the minute that the brass Segelei head (19a type with the well) I have won't fire up my RBA and protanks  >:(
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Jimmy on July 10, 2013, 06:05:02 PM

Cheers Jimmy, I might dig my pliers out and have a fiddle. Me and Diz also have a little experiment going with the copper Diz mentioned. I'm going to give it a go on mine too so we can see if it's a consistent improvement  ;)

I'm more annoyed at the minute that the brass Segelei head (19a type with the well) I have won't fire up my RBA and protanks  >:(

Try taking the top off your aga and pushing the centre pin down a little and then screwing it back on the mod if there's no play in the centre post then you will have to loosen the nuts off a bit but then you may have to rebuild your coil.
That's what I had to do.

I would also make sure the white plastic  delrin part on the underside of the top cap is screwed up fully and and also make sure the brass screw in the centre of the delrin is screwed right in

Check the pics below

You'll have to be gentle with the pliers unscrewing the delrin and brass post
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 10, 2013, 06:35:02 PM
Thanks Jimmy, I'll give that a go with the centre post on the RBA when I recoil it later this week. I tried the screw thing but no joy

To be honest, it's probably not the end of the world because I'm going to sand down the 510 connecter flush with the body I think. That should sort it and get rid of the gap between the atty too

Cheers for your help bud  :D
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 11, 2013, 08:22:54 PM
Just tried the copper 'washer' idea that Diz had and it's worked a treat - no misfires at all so far and easy to do! As per Diz I cut a square of adhesive backed copper sheet, to roughly the size of the base of the delron (the bit that the spring hits from underneath when pressing the fire button. Wrapped it and cut off edges. Did it 3 times in total to build up the washer. Neatened it off but still left a tiny overlap onto the threads outside and the central core that the pin comes through in the middle when firing

Should just say, that's no misfires even if I'm trying to get them. It doesn't matter if you hit the button centrally (which is when most of them happen), sideways or wherever, fires every time

Works a treat, what can I say! Here's a couple of pics:

Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: diz on July 11, 2013, 08:26:29 PM
Sorted!
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 11, 2013, 08:28:42 PM
Yep, it's the business Diz. Let Conan Doyle write about that one! hahaha  :D
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Jimmy on July 11, 2013, 10:09:20 PM
Glad your sorted mate. Where did you get the copper sheets from I might give it a go myself.

Have you managed to get your aga firing on your 19 yet?
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 11, 2013, 10:18:32 PM
Diz sent me some - not sure where you'd buy it - if you PM me your address I'll stick a sheet in the post for you

Not fiddled with the 19a cap yet. I'm going to get some wet and dry tomorrow and sand it down. It should be good all being well after that *fingers crossed* :)
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: diz on July 11, 2013, 10:36:02 PM
I bought a roll from eBay - as shielding for cavities in a guitar I recently renovated.
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Jimmy on July 11, 2013, 10:38:02 PM

Diz sent me some - not sure where you'd buy it - if you PM me your address I'll stick a sheet in the post for you

Not fiddled with the 19a cap yet. I'm going to get some wet and dry tomorrow and sand it down. It should be good all being well after that *fingers crossed* :)

Cheers for that I'll do that now.

Let me know how you get on with sanding the top down i fancy giving it a go myself but don't know where to start. Make sure you do some before and after pics.
Are you planning on just doing the 510 connector or are going to do the whole top cap to get rid of the tapered bit?
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 11, 2013, 11:07:43 PM
Well, that's got me thinking. I was just going to do the connector but knowing me I tend to get a bit carried away so I'll probably end up sanding my hand off hahahaha

Not sure, I vaguely remember seeing someone else that did it. All I'd be worried about would be how much depth it would leave in the 510 fitting - I'm inclined to think it would be too shallow and might be a problem. I'll see if I can dig about and see/read what the outcome was for others who did it. I think if just the connector was taken down that should be fine but will have to see...

Good idea on the photos - will do. Replied to your PM too

Cheers bud
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Jimmy on July 11, 2013, 11:50:51 PM

Well, that's got me thinking. I was just going to do the connector but knowing me I tend to get a bit carried away so I'll probably end up sanding my hand off hahahaha

Not sure, I vaguely remember seeing someone else that did it. All I'd be worried about would be how much depth it would leave in the 510 fitting - I'm inclined to think it would be too shallow and might be a problem. I'll see if I can dig about and see/read what the outcome was for others who did it. I think if just the connector was taken down that should be fine but will have to see...

Good idea on the photos - will do. Replied to your PM too

Cheers bud

If your changing the bolt in the top cap it will be adjustable so it shouldn't matter about the depth of the connector once its sanded down I have seen photos on another thread but can't find it now
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 12, 2013, 12:02:32 AM
Fair point, you're right you can adjust the back plate that the spring is screwed into out so that would sort that. Only two slight problems there might be the extra tightness on the battery, but I guess you could compress the top spring a little if needs be. And, how much threading it would leave in the connector - if there'd be enough

I don't know, I'll think about it. I'll be doing it by hand so I'm not sure I'd be able to take the whole top down neatly if you know what I mean. I wouldn't want to do mess it up. If you've any tips how I could get it done evenly I just might give it a bash
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Jimmy on July 12, 2013, 12:36:58 AM
I would just do it slowly by hand to get it even  although I don't have any experience so I could be talkin ****e haha. I'll have another look for that thread tomorrow I'm sure I seem it on ukvapers or aaec.
I think you could do away with the spring all together if you put a long enough bolt in the top cap then it wouldn't matter about the battery compression. The original top cap for the 19 had a magnet in in todds review not a spring and that's what ppl were doing to modify it and get rid of the magnet
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: diz on July 12, 2013, 12:58:38 AM
I ground my top cap down with a stone dremel bit in a pillar drill. It took ages!

I've done away with my spring and that spring screw, since the telescoping nature of my 19B means I can fit my 18650s nice and snug by adjusting the length of the telescope. I don't know what would happen with an 18350 though, since I don't have any.

Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Jimmy on July 12, 2013, 01:04:32 AM
Ah yours is the 19b top cap. Mines the A was thinking of buying that cap from vapegear. Does all your attys sit flush now?
Will you put a pic on with an atty on so I can have a look it might be easier than trying to sand the A's top cap right down

Cheers
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Jimmy on July 12, 2013, 01:11:17 AM
Another option would be to buy the fusion sg1 hybrid mod as well I suppose

http://www.vapesquad.com/review-the-fusions-sg-1-hybrid-kit/
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: diz on July 12, 2013, 01:31:53 AM
Ah yours is the 19b top cap. Mines the A was thinking of buying that cap from vapegear. Does all your attys sit flush now?
Will you put a pic on with an atty on so I can have a look it might be easier than trying to sand the A's top cap right down

Cheers
Yup it is the 19b. Sorry, I didn't realise that this wasn't the one being discussed. It does allow for flush fitting, although my AGA-T still manages to look a bit "functional" on it.

The great thing is now it refuses to misfire and has become much easier to use now the switch modification provides electrical connection to the plunger part of the switch via the spring.
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 12, 2013, 08:21:22 AM
Looks good Diz  :)

I'm going to have a go sanding the connector fitting down on my 19b too. Will try grab some wet and dry today

That fusion thing's interesting but you'd end up losing a good few grams without the head and I quite like the chunky weight. I don't if I would be so comfortable letting an atomiser sit directly on top of a battery either - attys do leak juice so is it really safe?
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 12, 2013, 02:07:14 PM
Hey Jimmy, stuck a piece of the copper from Diz in the post for you - sorry about the pink address label - it's my little girl's post-its and first thing that came to hand lol

I even recycled Diz's envelope!

In a1laserby style, here's a picture hahaha
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Jimmy on July 12, 2013, 05:24:52 PM
Hey Jimmy, stuck a piece of the copper from Diz in the post for you - sorry about the pink address label - it's my little girl's post-its and first thing that came to hand lol

I even recycled Diz's envelope!

In a1laserby style, here's a picture hahaha
excellent mate thanks
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Jimmy on July 14, 2013, 09:25:18 AM

Hey Jimmy, stuck a piece of the copper from Diz in the post for you - sorry about the pink address label - it's my little girl's post-its and first thing that came to hand lol

I even recycled Diz's envelope!

In a1laserby style, here's a picture hahaha

That copper sheet arrived yesterday mate stuck a piece on and it's working great thanks for that. How you getting on with yours?
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: Mev on July 14, 2013, 12:07:40 PM
 It does sort the firing problem for sure and great idea.
Title: Re: RBA resistance - Segelei 19b -v- Vamo: the "ilegal fix"
Post by: ilegal on July 14, 2013, 11:13:47 PM

Hey Jimmy, stuck a piece of the copper from Diz in the post for you - sorry about the pink address label - it's my little girl's post-its and first thing that came to hand lol

I even recycled Diz's envelope!

In a1laserby style, here's a picture hahaha

That copper sheet arrived yesterday mate stuck a piece on and it's working great thanks for that. How you getting on with yours?

Hey, nice one it got there so quick. I'm just hanging fire with mine - no post yesterday etc so fingers crossed for tommo. Went to the local tool shop thinkning I'd get some wet and dry but no joy - bought some off Amazon in the end

Glad to hear Mev's sorted it with the washer!