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Title: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: spyder on February 05, 2014, 09:04:03 PM
So I was excited to get this today from Ft but I have a serious problem building it. I'm not sure if I've got a dodgy unit or not.

My problem is the central collar rotates due to friction I presume from the top cap to central tube o-ring when I screw the tank together. This is causing the wicks to pull inside the chamber and yes, gurgle gurgle, flood, juice everywhere.

Anyone else had this or aware of a fix?

Cheers  :wave

Edit, I think a thicker o-ring where the collar slides up and down would fix it as it's very loose.
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: ukric on February 05, 2014, 09:18:43 PM
So I was excited to get this today from Ft but I have a serious problem building it. I'm not sure if I've got a dodgy unit or not.

My problem is the central collar rotates due to friction I presume from the top cap to central tube o-ring when I screw the tank together. This is causing the wicks to pull inside the chamber and yes, gurgle gurgle, flood, juice everywhere.

Anyone else had this or aware of a fix?

Cheers  :wave

Edit, I think a thicker o-ring where the collar slides up and down would fix it as it's very loose.

Oh where to start with this one.

If friction is your problem, have you tried lubricating your ring? Before you screw the top on?

Yes getting juice everywhere is mostly never fun.

I've had this happen once with the fTaifun, the only thought I particularly have on the matter is be gentle and then the juice won't go everywhere.

Also, make sure your wick is of the appropriate size to fill the holes, but without choking the wick.

If your bottom ring is too loose then a stiffer ring may help. I find it best to build it with the collar as far up as possible.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: spyder on February 05, 2014, 09:32:40 PM
You just couldn't resist eh Ric?

Found this over on the FT product forum for the GT. https://www.fasttech.com/forums/1527301/t/1157107/need-your-help-with-o-ring-sizes

Looks like another 4 week wait to enjoy my Taifun unless I can find some locally.

I've managed to wrap a few strands of silica in the groove and replace the o-ring. It's holding out but still moves when reassembling.
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: ukric on February 05, 2014, 09:35:47 PM
If you set em up.....

Seriously though, I had this problem the first time, and since have been really careful especially when screwing the top on. Seems to be alright, just a bit fiddly to set up
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: spyder on February 05, 2014, 09:44:29 PM
I didn't realise I was setting myself up but then again, I know what a bunch of perverts hang out here that cannot resist  :sex :sex :sex

Even with the silica strands to stiffen things up, (here we go again), and being ultra careful, (I'm a safety guy  ;) ) not matter how gentle I am it still moves right near the end.

I watched Mr Busardo's video on it and he struggled to lift his back up. A nice fat juicy o-ring there should cure things. Don't know whether to order some from fleabay or wait till the weekend and go shopping for some.

It vaped ok on the first and this build, same coil, it's just the rotating and wick pulling inside issues. If I can get it nailed I would consider another one or two as it's like a dripper, with cotton and a tank to boot.  :old
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: ukric on February 05, 2014, 09:49:18 PM
I'd get yourself on ebay or darn the local hardware shop and get something stiff to put in your tank
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: Stewrat on February 06, 2014, 12:21:22 AM
I had a few issues to start with but use the following guidelines and fine each time -

1) A total of 6mm silica wick e.g
  2mm for the coil and 2 x 2mm flavour wicks
  or
  3mm for the coil and 1 x 3mm flavour wick
I tried doubling up 3mm to make a coil of 6mm silica. This worked but it was a bit tight trying to screw the wires to the base posts.
2) I screw the centre column cap in place, and then pull the wicks from both sides to remove any slack, then trim
3) Pull the centre column up just enough to meet the post in the top (trial and error). When I refill it I pull the centre column up a fraction to make sure the seal is good when I screw the top back on, but not too much, so the centre post doesn't turn too much (I hope all that makes sense).

I have seen a few of these on Ebay for about 25 - 30 quid if you're desperate.
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: spyder on February 06, 2014, 03:41:49 PM
Cheers Stew.

2nd problem is it now leaks through the 510 connection. Flooded my nemi and my Sony cell.

May have to retire this one while I source replacement o rings.
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: ukric on February 06, 2014, 03:49:51 PM
Do not unscrew the screw in the base.

Maybe tighten it a bit, but don't unscrew it.
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: spyder on February 06, 2014, 04:17:30 PM
It's about flush with the edge of the connector. Have tried screwing it in more but then have no throw on the nemi switch with the flat top Sony's.

I hope to iron out these issues as I like the concept of micro coils with cotton being tank fed.
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: Stewrat on February 06, 2014, 04:19:24 PM
Cheers Stew.

2nd problem is it now leaks through the 510 connection. Flooded my nemi and my Sony cell.

May have to retire this one while I source replacement o rings.

No probs.

Are you using all silica wick? If so, how much?

If it is not a problem with the amount of wick, the problem could be where the post that is attached to the top 'cap' meets that centre column. You could check this by drying it out, and then putting just enough juice in so that the wicks are in contact with the juice, about 1ml I would think, so that there isn't enough juice to flow into the hole above the centre column. Then see if it still leaks.
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: spyder on February 06, 2014, 05:22:59 PM
I'm using cotton for wick. I did try ss mesh and silica on top but as it moved on assembly I got hotspots.
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: Stewrat on February 06, 2014, 11:00:32 PM
I'm using cotton for wick. I did try ss mesh and silica on top but as it moved on assembly I got hotspots.

Any chance of a photo of the coil/wick ? Be interesting to see how the cotton is sitting in there.

Maybe because of the nature of cotton, there is simply too much juice getting through the 'wick holes' into the chamber where the coil is located. Perhaps you could have your cotton coil/wick and then use silica on top as flavour wicks, to 'feed' the cotton.
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: spyder on February 06, 2014, 11:36:36 PM
Sorry should of mentioned I do have a piece of 2mm silica as "flavour" wick. The cotton is rolled and threaded through the micro coil which is wrapped around the supplied screwdriver.

As for a pic, when I open it up again I will do maybe tomorrow night when the tank is dry and I have to open her up for a refill.

Since cleaning everything back up after the leak this afternoon, it seems to be behaving, been vaping it all night. It didn't leak through the airhole, just straight out of the 510 connection.

Ok, opened her up for the pics and refill.

(http://i59.tinypic.com/4pyxa9.jpg)

Wick and coil.

(http://i59.tinypic.com/21l1r8h.jpg)

With 2mm flavour wick.

(http://i60.tinypic.com/maf7zl.jpg)

Edit. Refilled and managed to re assemble without the chamber turning. Maybe airtube o ring lubed up nicely now and my stiffening of the smaller deck o ring has helped. Still on the lookout for tighter o rings. Tight is good!

Note to self. Must mix more Cubana.  :argue
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: Stewrat on February 07, 2014, 11:31:00 AM
Looks nice and neat in there.

Whenever I have had the leaking and gurgling on the Taifun, and other BCC's, it has always been due to insufficient flavour wick 'volume'.

The other thing I noticed with the Taifun is that, when one screws the 'cap' onto the central column / chamber it can dislodge the flavour wick so that it doesn't sit neatly above the coil. A little 'tug  8) on each end of the flavour wick has sorted this out for me.

Glad things seem to be working out.
Title: Re: Taifun GT heading for the bin!
Post by: spyder on February 07, 2014, 06:11:00 PM
I've wrapped a fair few micro coils now in the drippers so they are getting better. I realigned the cotton wick as it was slightly crooked due to the chamber movement when assembling the tank. Pics were taken as it was when I took it out.

Had a little leak through the airhole this morning. Once I source some tighter fitting o rings I'm sure it will be more reliable and avoid being placed in the junk box. I've got 1.5 and 2mm silica so maybe I'll try an all silica build next time around.