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Title: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: crE on February 02, 2012, 01:14:00 PM
Impulse purchasing made me add 100ml of PG to my cart when buying 5 new attus for my ego-c.

What are the first steps to say, make a 24mg menthol mix out of it? Or am I being stupid here?
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: funkybunch on February 02, 2012, 01:20:27 PM
Is it the neat54 pg? if so you will need either pg or vg to dilute it with and some flavouring. Boots sell 200mls of Glycerin for 89p (cheaper than chips!)
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: Capt12B on February 02, 2012, 01:21:13 PM
Now you need nicotine base and menthol concentrate or crystals.

If you ordered 54 mg vg base and mixed it 50/50 with your pg and would have 27mg 50/50 pg/vg then mix in 10% menthol and you have 24mg menthol juice ;D

To mix 1ml: 9drops 54mg + 9 drops pg+  2 drops menthol = 1 ml of 24mg ;D
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: crE on February 02, 2012, 01:41:46 PM
Erm, this one: http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epages/yxve46fvrnud.mobile/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/yxve46fvrnud/Products/J100PG (http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epages/yxve46fvrnud.mobile/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/yxve46fvrnud/Products/J100PG)  ???
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: Fiona on February 02, 2012, 01:43:49 PM
So now you need the nicotine..............Cheaper at Liberty Flights.... use the ecr69 discount code if you do go there....
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: Ayup on February 02, 2012, 01:57:35 PM
I had a couple of questions that are relevant to this thread so if it's okay I'll stick them in this one as they might help crE too.

To mix and store e-liquids are normal plastic food containers fine or do you need anything special?

I got 5mg of menthol crystals from boots.  To turn these into menthol flavouring I read you leave them to dissolve them in PG - about 50% PG/50% crystals - then add this to other liquids according to taste.  Sound right?

http://www.e-cig-reviews.com/eliquid%20calculator.html (http://www.e-cig-reviews.com/eliquid%20calculator.html) Will probably come in useful too crE.
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: crE on February 02, 2012, 02:29:03 PM
Thanks for the advice so far, i cant seem to find nicotine on libertyflights..
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: Ayup on February 02, 2012, 02:31:28 PM
It's here:

http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=91 (http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=91)
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: Fiona on February 02, 2012, 02:44:51 PM
Then you just need flavourings....Liberty flights have a large range from different suppliers....The customer reviews can help give you an idea of what the flavourings ar elike.
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: crE on February 02, 2012, 03:15:46 PM
Just had a look, I can only see things like PG with certain amounts of nic strength. Dont I already have the PG from cloud9vaping? Im getting confused!
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: Capt12B on February 02, 2012, 03:20:11 PM
Nic base comes in various strengths and in ether a pg or vg base. Additional pg or vg is used to cut it down ;)
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: funkybunch on February 02, 2012, 03:21:15 PM
You have pg with no nic in it, if it's the one you put the link to, used to dilute the nic pg
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: Fiona on February 02, 2012, 03:27:07 PM
http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=91 (http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=91)
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: crE on February 02, 2012, 04:09:00 PM
Jesus! £35 for 250ml. I got 220ml of premade 24mg juice for £32 off healthcabin!

Maybe I made a mistake buying this stuff?
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: Fiona on February 02, 2012, 04:17:28 PM
Its cheaper from nicvape, I thought you were looking for UK vendors :)

http://www.nicvape.com/store/c/20-Unflavored-Nicotine-Liquid.aspx (http://www.nicvape.com/store/c/20-Unflavored-Nicotine-Liquid.aspx)
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: crE on February 03, 2012, 06:09:11 PM
My PG came today, good news :)

So now I need some PG infused with ol' faithful, nicotine.

Any recommendations on what I need from nicvape? And what I need for a menthol flavour?
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: Fiona on February 03, 2012, 06:22:52 PM
Nic vape do the PG and VG.......   I get the 50mg  and buy 125ml of it....But then I'm a skint flint :)

Perfumers Apprentice, Decadent Vapours and FlavourArt all do a Menthol flavouring..... But use sparingly until you know how strong you want it....

ECW and/or Liberty flights should stock at least one of these flavourings   ;D
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: crE on February 03, 2012, 08:00:31 PM
Great advice fiona!!

So I get 125ml of 50mg PG, I already have 125ml of pure PG. Then I need to buy the flavouring.

How much, say, 18mg menthol juice could I make?
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: Fiona on February 03, 2012, 08:12:24 PM
If you normally use 18mg, then yes....

Also the Perfumers Apprentice Caramel Candy flavouring is a nice base to the Menthol....BTW, I'm obsessed with the Caramel Candy, so please ignore my Caramel Candy...Caramel Candy! Did I say Caramel Candy? lol.........Damn, I need help!   :P
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: crE on February 03, 2012, 08:23:16 PM
So, am I right in thinking I mix together my 125ml PG and 125ml 50mg NIC PG I'll get a 25mg PG solution? Then with flavourings added I'll get roughly 22-24mg 250ml+ solution?

£7 for my PG (inc shipping)
£27ish for my NIC PG (inc shipping)
£10ish for my flavouring (inc shipping)

Thats £42 for say 260ml of liquid.

It just cost me £34 (inc shipping) for 220ml 24mg juice from healthcabin.

Costwise, I think its slightly cheaper to buy premixed juices!

Is my maths correct here?
Title: Re: I've just bought 100ml of PG from Cloud9Vaping, errm, what next??
Post by: Fiona on February 03, 2012, 08:54:42 PM
You'll get more than that as some of the flavourings your'll be using a mixture of them at around 15% and higher. ........Which will work out more than 260ml......

Also its cheaper to by PG and VG from Boots...But I think you'd already ordered it from Cloud9.

Also you have to take into consideration your mixing them up as YOU like them..Not taking chances on mixes that are too weak, too strong or just nasty from someone else......

You can add to your flavourings, and experiment and I'm sure next time if you by some VG and or PG from the chemist like boots for (200ml VG 89p) (200ml PG £8.99) and shop about you'll soon have a stock that will make it worth your while and will indeed work out cheaper in the long run....

:)