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how turkeys might vote for Christmas
« on: January 05, 2016, 02:00:07 PM »

if turkeys voted for Christmas in the proverbial sense, then perhaps they might lodge the following while inviting others to follow their lead ...

"The European Comission has moved to kill people and businesses by enforcing ridiculous regulations on e-cigarettes as of 2016. Vaping has helped many smokers quit. The regulations have come about from scared citizens with no knowledge asking for the government to do something about it.

Article 20 of the TPD means that no longer may vapers buy new exciting flavours. Something that helped me quit. They can no longer refill their own tanks. They have to buy cartidges that hold little liquid and produce a very unsatisfactory amount of vapour. If you allow this to take effet many of your population will return to smoking. Teen smoking rates are at their lowest. Vapes are classed as a tobacco product because of nicotine but many of the foods we eat contain it too. For example tomato

by my reckoning, asserting that the EU Commission has moved to kill people, is a direct demand to implement safety. something which the commission can demonstrably cite by their intervention to implement tighter control and necessary scrutiny. in addition the author then moves to accuse 'scared citizens with no knowledge asking the government to do something about it'. again quite ludicrous that the author might better be describing himself that the 'others' that he might allude to.

next he exposes his belief that vapers will 'no longer be able to buy new and exciting flavours', perhaps revealing a belief that exiting new flavours wouldn't make the grade, but moreover, his assertion flies in the face of the contradictory text which was made public from quite possibly the largest flavour house on the continent, whom readily argued for their TPD amid the back-drop of safety must prevail in a world of concerning developments which might derail their tidy revenue stream.

quite incredibly, he then makes the ludicrous decision to allege how "If you allow this to take effect many of your population will return to smoking", which vastly disproportionate, is  perhaps music to the ears of those claiming vape is merely a stopping point alternative to continued smoking.

finally, he lends to tomato being a nicotine product, to which i naturally respond with the same old, how many watts does a salad require in order to kick ones habit and perhaps lettuce might be a-class amid equally nonsensical links to opiates.

i do wonder how the strategy of misinformation and disjointed propaganda which invariably causes nothing more than distraction, has served perfectly the powers that be and while folk have been encouraged to believe and indeed run with inspirational false information, including some rather ludicrous lies such as the 'we won't be able to even talk about' and 'virtually everything in your immediate possession, shall soon render you criminal', i wonder why those crusaders allotting themselves responsibility, have been allowed indeed encouraged, to guide vaping toward their imaginary abyss.

anyway, my view aside, and here is the perfectly adept and reasonable reply to the patently ill-prepared petition, from the government department of health ...

government responded

"The Government recognises the potential benefits of e-cigarettes to reduce the harms of smoking. The TPD introduces a regulatory framework which does not ban flavours or the use of refillable tanks.

The revised Tobacco Products Directive (Directive 2014/40/EU) (TPD), was published in April 2014 and the UK is now required to transpose the TPD into domestic law by May 2016. A consultation on the draft regulations and impact assessment was held from July to September this year. The TPD will introduce additional rules on the composition, safety and presentation of e-cigarettes to ensure a high level of health protection for UK citizens.

Whilst the Government recognises the potential benefits of e-cigarettes and their role in reducing the harm of tobacco use and helping smokers quit, the quality of products on the market remains variable and they are not risk free. The regulatory framework introduced by the TPD is intended to provide for minimum standards for safety and quality of all e-cigarettes and e-liquids, information to consumers so that they can make informed choices, and an environment that protects children from beginning to use these products.

The TPD does not ban new flavours in e-cigarettes and e-liquids. The TPD permits Member States to make their own rules on flavours in e-cigarettes and e-liquids, however the Department of Health has no current plans to do so.

Refillable tanks will still be permitted under the TPD. Tanks will be limited to 2ml in size and rules to make refill mechanisms ‘leak free’ will be introduced. Consumers will remain able to purchase tank devices and separate e-liquids.

E-cigarettes do not fall under the definition of a tobacco product under the TPD. The UK’s implementing Regulations define “tobacco product” to mean a product that can be consumed and consists, even partly, of tobacco.

Following implementation of the new EU rules, there will remain a range of e-cigarette and e-liquid products on the UK market. In parallel, the prohibition on the sale of e-cigarettes to under-18s, will help ensure these products are positioned as alternatives to smoking and not a product that introduces children to vaping or smoking.

Department of Health

here is link to the petition, should anyone think it at all sensible to subscribe to - https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/105139?reveal_response=yes

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