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Author Topic: And the results are in!  (Read 7868 times)

woodmans

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And the results are in!
« on: February 26, 2014, 01:05:25 AM »

Only 9.5 hours ahead of time....
http://dickpuddlecote.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/if-you-dont-want-result-look-away-now.html

Love the line "speaking after the vote"...... Such democracy, EU!
Bah.  :sex
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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2014, 09:34:07 AM »

the TPD has been 10 years in the making - so that at least rules out the rumour that the whole thing was a pharmaceutical vehicle to outlaw e-cigs.

in regard to smoking and cigarettes, there are very few who'd dispute those fags are categorically killing people - democracy has many interpretations.

i do though find EU quite farcical, not least in how one MEP is staunchly critical of the process she yet invokes to give an all expenses paid busman's holiday to what she perceives as floating voters.


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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2014, 10:58:54 AM »

the only predictable thing is that there are going to be a lot of very angry vapers later on today, and there will probably be an internet TV program devoted to it lol
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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2014, 12:22:45 PM »

last-minute decision to allow for separate votes on certain paragraphs causes some confusion. Vice-president Karas clarifies that MEPs will vote on the text as a whole and then on three individual articles.

democracy of sorts - article requiring tougher regulation of e-cigarettes is backed by 478 votes to 130.

British MEP, Linda McAvan, who steered negotiations of the directive through parliament receives applause from fellow MEPs as the result is read out.
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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2014, 12:24:13 PM »

well that's it chaps.....VAPING IS DEAD.... hope you enjoyed the show, it was good while it lasted.
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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2014, 12:34:47 PM »

vaping isn't dead - the practice whereby we mix our own e-liquid, will be accorded by worshippers of the 'buns', as a 'Black Market' activity - it hasn't gone away, just been relabelled.

well - the main thing is, they got what they sought and it the split vote - still voted down and all the more solid for being so.
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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2014, 12:46:25 PM »

vaping isn't dead - the practice whereby we mix our own e-liquid, will be accorded by worshippers of the 'buns', as a 'Black Market' activity - it hasn't gone away, just been relabelled.

well - the main thing is, they got what they sought and it the split vote - still voted down and all the more solid for being so.

you wont hear a bad word said against the EU will you mate?......the sun shines out of their harris....lol
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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2014, 12:53:24 PM »

lol - i aint necessarily persuaded either way - i don't particularly cherish the thought of extended regulation, be that by the self appointed vape police running things in favour of their vending buddies or the EU doing it in the interest of theirs.

what i know thus far is that the TPD began early this millennia and meanwhile, we've been able to amply buy pharma grade component ingredients quite freely and easily amid that regime.
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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2014, 01:30:33 PM »

Well article 18 should never have been included in the top at all....
The Euroarses will have blood on their hands, apparently:
http://www.eureporter.co/magazine/2014/02/26/105000-smokers-will-be-killed-every-year-by-tpd-ban-on-e-cigarettes-say-manufacturers/
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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2014, 02:05:26 PM »

manufacturers are expected predictably to say this is akin to something of a death sentence - so too might consumer associations fuelled by secretive 'personal donations' from the industries largest beneficiaries.
i consider it quite disingenuous as we don't see them make similar assertions to their guardian forum which itself wilfully suppresses information and opportunity at direct detriment to those same would-be fatalities.

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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2014, 03:20:52 PM »

dont know if anyone's read this but pharma looks like the still got there fingers in  might not be nothing but worth a read
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-19/glaxo-memo-shows-drug-industry-lobbying-on-e-cigarettes.html
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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2014, 03:23:04 PM »

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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2014, 03:33:51 PM »

another memo read into this
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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2014, 04:23:01 PM »

another good read 
« Last Edit: February 26, 2014, 04:26:12 PM by tripodbeatz »
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Re: And the results are in!
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2014, 04:27:09 PM »

what are they - and - how do they relate ?
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